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Yagyuu Hiroshi ([personal profile] usedlaserbeam) wrote in [community profile] slowpoke_gif2013-05-29 02:32 pm

A Wild Headcanon Meme Appears!

✭ A HEADCANON/QUESTIONS MEME ✭
Because there's never a wrong time for headcanon.


→ Post with a list of your characters.
→ Comment to other people asking them questions about their lineup. Ask anything you can think of: questions about personal headcanon, thoughts on your CR, hypothetical situations, off-screen interactions, future plans, serious business, random crack, whatever!
→ Respond to the questions you receive!
→ LEARN NEW THINGS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S CHARACTERS THAT YOU NEVER KNEW BEFORE.
→ Discover things your characters have in common and forge excellent CR and shenanigans accordingly.
→ Repeat steps 2-5 forever.
Holy Voltorbs.
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[personal profile] doitrockapella 2013-05-29 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yagyuu Hiroshi | Prince of Tennis | [personal profile] usedlaserbeam
Carmen Sandiego | Where On Earth Is Carmen Sandiego? | [personal profile] doitrockapella
Albert Rosenfield | Twin Peaks | [personal profile] worktodo
Parker | Leverage | [personal profile] nostabbing
Edited 2013-05-29 18:42 (UTC)
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[personal profile] rapid_dash 2013-05-29 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
>Carmen: has she ever thought doing any other profession? What made her get into her current one?
>Yagyuu: What got him into tennis?
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[personal profile] doitrockapella 2013-05-29 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, well, Carmen's answer is about two-thirds headcanon and one-third Actual Canon, so for the purposes of style and flow, I'll outline the Actual Canon first and then jump into the headcanon from there.

It's established canon in Carmen's universe that before she was a thief, Carmen was the top agent at the same detective agency, ACME, who currently pursues her as a thief. Episode 33 of Carmen's canon includes an extended flashback to what her life was like back then, and from a lot of other bits of information provided sporadically throughout in combination with that, I've roughly pieced together that Carmen spent the majority of her teen years working for ACME — we're given an explicit age in that we know she'd solved more cases than any other detective in the agency's history by age seventeen, so she had to have been with them at least that long. We also know that during one caper where she returns to ACME and uses her old ID to get in, she's been gone from the agency "ten years, three months, and seven days". We also know she has at least one birthday in canon, and that in the series finale she is not yet thirty years old.

So basically, putting all this together and drawing on what we know from the flashback episode, what made Carmen get into the thieving business is essentially that she worked a case against the toughest rival she'd ever had to face, Dr. Gunnar Maelstrom (voiced by the unparalleled Tim Curry, I might add). Maelstrom gave Carmen a run for her money as a detective; she had to chase him a lot and he was constantly managing to escape from her — effectively, he was her "Carmen Sandiego" for a good length of time. The problem was, Maelstrom is a psychopath and he had absolutely no qualms about being really villainous in Carmen's general direction, which meant that unlike her own capers that are generally safe and intellectual, he was actively trying to kill her on pretty much every occasion that they crossed paths.

The problem is that Carmen is ambitious, focused, and a little bit obsessive, particularly when challenged. Maelstrom took advantage of that, and at one point actually sort of mindfucked her a little (as mindfuckery as you can get in a children's edutainment TV show, that is) — by performing a light Hannibal Read on her, telling her that she's a "thief at heart" and exactly like him no matter how she tries to deny it, and (it's implied) basically putting the idea in her head that someday she would become a thief herself. Young Carmen is pretty angry and driven and it's kind of sad to watch her in action because you just feel so sorry for her. At least I do.

So anyway, that's canon. The headcanon goes something like this:

After catching Maelstrom, the higher-ups at ACME caught sight of the fact that the case had messed Carmen up pretty badly and that she was having these anger issues and throwing herself at her work to the point of being really unhealthy, so they assigned her a partner, Suhara, who happened to be a zen master (Suhara and the zen thing are both canon). Thanks to Suhara's intervention, she started to chill the fuck out and it was basically a really really necessary thing, because she would've gotten to the point of being flagrantly self-destructive pretty fast if he hadn't gotten there when he did. This is how she learned to become a zen master herself (she is one - it's canon), but ultimately she never quite got Maelstrom's remarks out of her head. Coupled with this was the fact that she was getting bored at the agency — she was the best, and she just kept on winning, but there was no challenge for her anymore — and eventually she got to the point of thinking, well...what if I were a thief. I could do it better. I bet I could commit a theft that no one could catch me at. Maybe I am a thief at heart.

Maybe I should stop denying what I am.

It's worth pointing out here, as a side note, that I'm pretty sure this is intentionally analogous to something that came up with regard to Sherlock Holmes, which was that if it weren't for the fact that he were on the side of justice, he'd make the most magnificent criminal in the world. Carmen's backstory seems to be a pretty direct nod to that — she takes the choice that Sherlock never did.

So at this point Carmen's about eighteen, she leaves the agency and ends up sending her partner into a depression born of guilt for ten years because of it (canon), and sets off to form her own league of evildoers and become the greatest thief of all time. Because she was bored.

Yeah.

So there's actually a couple of answers to "what made her get into her current one". Dr. Gunnar Maelstrom is definitely one of them, because he provided a lot of the manipulation that sort of pushed her in that direction in the first place. But Carmen hates the thought of letting Maelstrom have that kind of power over her, so she's adamant that all he really did was point out something that was probably true about her all along (maybe) — that she's a thief, she's always been a thief, and so becoming a thief was really just a matter of being true to herself. (Maybe.)

She does sometimes miss being a detective, though, and certainly misses the agency — she's an orphan, and it was one of the first and only "homes" she's ever had. Plus, she loves the Chief enough that she named her starter after him (because her starter pokemon is "her partner", and so was he, once), and the Chief kind of loves her a whole lot back, so they're very It's Complicated.

Honestly, she's never really thought of doing anything else. She went straight from the orphanage into crime-solving with ACME, and from there straight into thievery. I submit that she'd probably make an excellent doctor if she put her talents at stealing toward curing people instead, but Carmen's problem is that she lives for the game and the thrill of the chase, and she always wants to do it on her own terms. So the job she has is probably the one that's best-suited to her, and in the grand scheme of things, maybe that's kind of how it should be, you know?

Also I bet she and Rufus Shinra would get along really well, just saying.

[personal profile] angerpoints 2013-05-29 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
So I only started watching Twin Peaks recently, buuut... Albert! What was he like as a kid? Did he always want to go into the FBI, or were there any other careers he considered?

And for Parker: if she had an INFINITE AMOUNT of money at her disposal, what would she do with it?
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[personal profile] nostabbing 2013-05-29 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
SWIM IN IT LIKE SCROOGE MCDUCK.
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[personal profile] nostabbing 2013-05-29 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
...seriously, though, Parker's love of money is not actually tied to any sort of desire for worldly material goods (quite the contrary, given how much money she has versus how we see her live). By the end of the first episode of Parker's canon, she has "...retirement money. This is 'go legit and buy an island money'." — basically, more than enough to keep anybody (who is not Parker) happy for a long, long time. Yet for comparison, despite having all this money, she lives in a storage unit containing a bed, a bookshelf full of cereal (and bowls, and spoons with which to eat it), a drawing board, a rack of harnesses, a table of tools, and some job-planning equipment. And that's pretty much it! So she's not in it for the luxury of having money or the things she can get with the money. She just...really likes money.

Also cute and notable is that for Christmas, the team "parents" get her a stack of presumably hundred-dollar bills with "non-sequential serial numbers — my favorite!" and she is just positively happy as a clam about this.

So if Parker had an infinite amount of money at her disposal, she would...basically put it into an infinite amount of tax-sheltered covert bank accounts in the Cayman Islands and proceed to keep trying to get more money.

Because money.

It is pretty much the only thing she knows she likes in the entire world.
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[personal profile] worktodo 2013-05-29 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
MEANWHILE, FOR SASSY MCASSHOLESON OVER HERE...

Albert as a kid was pretty much what you'd expect an adult like Albert to be like as a kid. He was from a small town in the middle of nowhere somewhere in New England or so where everybody knew each other and more importantly, where everyone knew everybody else's business (hence why he hates small towns), and he had a grandma whom he loved who lived across the country in San Francisco. Once a year he'd fly out for a visit and stay with her for a couple weeks in the summer before school started up again, and it is from her that he derived his passion for justice and doing the Right Thing, and largely what set him on the path to developing the moral code he currently holds. I've also headcanoned that since she died (between fifteen and twenty years ago now), Albert writes a letter to her every year on his birthday, continuing his tradition of writing to her while she was alive to keep her up to speed on what he was doing with his life.

Growing up, he was your standard ridiculously smart nerdy loner type, but he actually never got picked on much because he was so good at cutting apart the bullies with scathing wit. And in a teeny town where everybody knows everybody else's business anyway, you can't just go and deck a kid who just verbally eviscerated you in front of the whole class, or you look like an even bigger musclehead than the kid just said you were. So largely they just left him alone, which in turn attracted Albert a small following of less-cunning but fairly equally nerdy underlings who liked to hang around him so that they wouldn't get picked on either, and thus Albert became the Alpha Nerd of his little group of nerdlings at his school.

He was always the top of his class, he got a scholarship so that he could go to college, and ultimately (canonically) ended up first in his class at Yale. So dude is really hella smart. I also think he got interested in forensics pretty early on, and that's what led him to the FBI — shopping around for a career that would basically let him do ALL SCIENCE ALL DAY ERRYDAY but then came with the added bonus of bringing criminals and evildoers to justice while he was at it, which is very much relevant to Albert's interest. He likes the knowledge that his efforts are leading to the capture of bad guys and on some small level making the world a better place. Sometimes that's what gets him through the day.

He did consider some other private-sector jobs, but I think he pretty much always knew that "government agent / forensic pathologist" was his endgame. From his perspective, there is a very heavy element of "I need to do this because I am the best and I have the stomach for it and if I do it, it will get done and get done right and these people will not have died in vain." Albert's got a hard, nasty, tedious job, but that's okay with him because he knows he's resilient to a point long past where a lot of other people would crack. That's why he sticks with it. Because it needs to get done and someone needs to do it and he's the best at it, so tl;dr he's got work to do, dammit. Now get out of his way and let him do it.

I maintain, though, that someday when he's put in his years at the Bureau, he'll switch over to academia so he can train up the next wave of forensic pathologists according to his high and exacting standards. Everybody hates Professor Rosenfield's class, but by god if you're in it, you're going to walk out the best.
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[personal profile] red_roses 2013-05-29 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Carmen- How do you manage to steal and run with, let alone hide, enormous monuments? Mount Rushmore surely can't be that easy...well, unless its Courage the Cowardly dog, but I digress.
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[personal profile] doitrockapella 2013-05-29 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Forced perspective and a lot of rope.

The rest of the method is a trade secret.
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[personal profile] explosivecombat 2013-05-30 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Ideally speaking, where would Carmen want the Dead Philosophers' CR to end up? Assuming that she could manage to get any outcome she wanted without Kimblee becoming some sort of bizarre pod person in the process if it were to be a bit on the improbable side - what is the endgame she'd want most out of this?
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[personal profile] nostabbing 2013-05-30 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
WRONG JOURNAL DON'T CARE

...and that...is actually an excellent question because I think at this point even Carmen isn't exactly sure what endgame she's hoping for her. Possibly because she's not in any particular hurry to advance things toward that endgame when she's fairly content with how things are going right now? This requires further thought and reflection on my part, but one of the big components is, she likes having an intellectual rival. And the more I reflect on it, the more it strikes me that really the only times when she seems to get actively upset with him are when it involves him doing something that hurts other people — whether it be en masse by firing into a crowd, or possibly making his boyfriend feel bad through something stupid he did. The sociopathy doesn't really bother her, the war stories don't...precisely bother her largely because they're in the past so it's not like being upset about them is going to change anything anyway, and frankly even when he's sniping at her or taking shots at their differences, so long as he's not actively Hannibal-ing her into submission, she almost kind of appreciates the...perspective, if you will, on some of her own worse points.

I think honestly she takes an unusual amount of comfort in the fact that he's (I can't believe I'm saying this) supportive of her on an intellectual level but makes no demands of her whatsoever on an emotional one. She's getting her necessary mental stimulation and it doesn't come with hurt or feelings attached. Which isn't to say she doesn't live for the moments when she can corner him into praising her or doing something that could read as that kind of interest, but I do think she'd have started backpedalling out of this shit a long time ago if there were Actual Feelings around to get tangled up in this.

(Admittedly, she's still kind of weird when boyfriends come up, largely because she's more comfortable talking about what she independently is feeling and trying to work through it than she is — despite all appearances to the contrary — talking about The Relationship as a thing that two people engaged in together. She hides it well, though.)

Ideally, I think she would get him to embrace the idea of doing exactly what he already does, but to take on the new element of "and don't kill anyone while you're doing it". Really, that's what Carmen would argue is a higher standard of perfection, anyway — to do your craft with such precision that no one gets hurt in the process. Which makes things hard when your craft is murderin' people, but I digress.

All things considered, she is really weirdly fond of having him as a rival-friend. The new element of this "teacher" thing is...going to make things decidedly more complicated because of her longstanding habit of (older) men who influence her life, but it also means she's kind of weirdly attaching to him. Which is stupid. Like really really stupid Carmen what are you doing.

So in the grand scheme of things, I think she could be perfectly happy endgaming it out with an outcome of "professional contemporaries" whose methods do not always align and whose perspectives sometimes conflict, but by and large they're both generally fond enough of each other to

oh fuck it they're Aziraphale and Crowley. There's your endgame. BAM.