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Shū Tsukiyama (月山 習) | ɢᴏᴜʀᴍᴇᴛ ([personal profile] preybeforemeals) wrote in [community profile] slowpoke_gif2014-10-13 01:50 pm

And if you'd like to talk for hours, just go ahead now

Character Relationships Meme!



1. Leave a comment listing who you play.

2. Reply to one another, asking for details on CR/what their characters think of yours!

3. tl;dr at will!

Holy crap, it's so easy a Weedle can do it. It's not Magikarp-tier simplicity, but that's just because nothing is Magikarp-tier simplicity.

Have at and enjoy!
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[personal profile] superordinary 2014-10-13 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
So what are your thoughts on protag-kun, Ishimaru?
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[personal profile] ardent 2014-10-13 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
SO.

Ishimaru is honestly very comfortable with Naegi by now; he finds him reliable and incredibly dependable, which are always good traits to have as far as getting along with Ishimaru is concerned. He doesn't like surprises and he doesn't like trusting people only to find out that his trust was ill-placed, and problems like that aren't very likely to arise from Naegi's direction. Naegi is a very...safe person, I suppose, in that regard; as such, Ishimaru is a bit more okay with talking to him about things that he normally doesn't talk to anyone else about, including Mondo. (It's not that he doesn't trust Mondo as much as it is that he finds him unpredictable a lot of the time, and as such he has a hard time gauging what will get a good reaction and what won't, as such he doesn't tell him as many personal things; he doesn't really have that issue with Naegi. "Predictable" is too mercenary a way of wording it, though; "dependable" is closer to what he wants.) He...sort of dislikes talking about feelings with him, because Naegi is one of those people that seems to have his feelings all worked out and he basically seems to have his shit together in a way that Ishimaru does not, and Ishimaru is still a ridiculously competitive person and he doesn't like having to admit inferiority like that - he's really counterproductive in some ways because he wants to learn from people but attempting to learn from peers just tends to make him all frustrated and competitive, so he's trying to find some sort of balance where he can talk about these things without feeling like an idiot, but. Naegi has actually given him a lot of good advice in those regards as well, and he's feeling a little more confident in social endeavors largely thanks to Naegi's help.

(...he's also probably the reason Ishimaru is making a concerted effort to be nicer to Kirigiri, both because of the whole dating thing and because Naegi has basically managed to talk to him enough that he has some degree of social function.)

His friendship with Naegi is also noteworthy because he's managing to do it without putting him on a pedestal or going through some bizarre honeymoon phase where absolutely nothing he does is wrong; he acknowledges that Naegi isn't perfect and he's...okay with that, or at least as okay as he can be, rather than taking it to some sort of unhealthy extreme in either dismissing any and all of his flaws/claiming they don't exist, or trying to bludgeon change into him with all the subtlety of Justice Hammer #3. (He's strict with regards to things like kendo but that's more because he's not the best teacher out there and doesn't understand how constructive criticism is supposed to work, as opposed to actively trying to verbally beat the flaws out of him.) He tends to have a lot of problems with that sort of thing, but he's somehow managing functional friendship with Naegi even if he's not entirely sure how.

He's probably closest to Naegi than he is the rest of the Dangans, and he really appreciates everything that Naegi's done for him and everyone else. He's discussed it with Kirigiri before, the difference between being grateful that someone specific survived and being grateful that someone survived, period; he's really grateful for Naegi, specifically, even if he's kind of shit at expressing it. He feels like he owes him a lot, definitely, though not in a...bad way, just in an "I ought to find a way to return the favor someday" sort of way.
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[personal profile] awesmazings 2014-10-13 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Thoughts on Jimmy and Chihiro from those who know them?
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[personal profile] ardent 2014-10-14 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Ishimaru → Jimmy
Ishimaru actually likes Jimmy, though it's less in a close-friend sort of way and more in a "...somebody needs to adopt you now, why is no one properly doing this" sort of way. (And if someone actually has properly done this, then why in the world are they letting you have extistential crises about Hell.) It's more of a protective thing than anything, if that makes any sense; he's kind of...not comfortable with people around Jimmy's age having major issues like that given that he had mental complications that literally drove him completely insane when he was around that age. So basically there's a lot of projecting like an IMAX going on, I think.

Kimblee → Jimmy
They've spoken a few times and Kimblee finds him...interesting, if nothing else; he's decent conversation, anyway. Kimblee doesn't really tend to have a lot of thoughts on people; basically they have to really grab his attention for him to really register some sort of opinion on them one way or another, and Jimmy is...not quite there yet? He finds the kid naive as hell and he's not sure what to do with all the optimism because Kimblee is himself not an optimist in the least; if anything he's probably remembered the optimism more than anything else because that's not a point of view that he can really comprehend or justify taking himself - life favors pessimism over optimism and realism over idealism, so the idea that someone would go against what makes logical and coherent sense really doesn't click well in his mind. So that's interesting, which is more than he really has to say for like 95% of people. ...He's really not one for opinions on people, I'm sorry.

Alfred → Jimmy
...Oh boy. Um. Alfred is another card-carrying member of the "no opinions on anyone ever" brigade; most of his conversations are very superficial and he tends to like it that way, because he has a lot of psychosis issues and those come with often having no idea whether he actually had a conversation with someone or if he just thinks he did. He remembers that Jimmy is the little boy from Hell, and that is...about all he's got. I mean Jimmy's a decent boy from Hell, so Alfred's pretty sure he's probably doing the whole "being from Hell" thing wrong, but...yeah, um. It's nothing Jimmy's doing wrong, it's purely on this end that the weird snags are hitting.

Ishimaru → Chihiro
Okay, just as some background for why part of this is...the way it is: when we had our previous Chihiro, Ishimaru was really good at doing one thing with him and that was accidentally making him cry. (Usually by having all the subtlety of a brick to the face.) He did get along with him really well by the end, but he spent the first several weeks with more or less nothing but accidental tears all over because oops. As such, Ishimaru is a little wary of interacting with him, because he doesn't really have a lot of social skills as it is and he can't read a room for shit; a lot of the time he'll try to keep conversations reasonably brief with Chihiro because he wants to avoid upsetting him, since a lot of the time he doesn't understand what he did to upset him in the first place. At the same time, he's insanely protective of the guy, especially now that he's been canon-updated to mid-Chapter 3 - he's generally of the thought that Chihiro has suffered more than enough (and really, pretty much everyone has suffered more than enough), and apparently when you cross that particular line you get thrown into a pool. He doesn't feel guilty about Poolgate at all, even though he suspects he should (he kind of feels vaguely guilty over not feeling guilty? ...it's confusing) though he does sort of wish he could have stopped it...faster than he did. At the same time...look he broke rules and threw a girl into a pool for you and got reprimanded like hell, so clearly he thinks pretty highly of you, there. :|b

I think that's everyone? If I missed somebody, hit me.
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[personal profile] occultigen 2014-10-13 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
With all this social function in the water, I think it's a swell time for:

Ishimaru on Kirigiri

Tsukiyama on Meridiana

And optionally, your choice of one of yours on one of mine, if there's something interesting or novel worthy of note!
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[personal profile] deaftly 2014-10-13 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Nonon → Isaac
Tsukiyama → Naki

...and any of the others you feel we haven't discussed very much!
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[personal profile] ossifragant 2014-10-14 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Let's go with any combination, I'm curious!
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[personal profile] ossifragant 2014-10-14 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
LAUGHS

Tsukiyama jesus christ

This is going to be fantastic dear god I am looking forward to it. At least Banjou knows better than to think that Tsukiyama is doing this for anything other than selfish reasons because man this is going to go straight to shit.
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[personal profile] crystalballer 2014-10-14 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Ishimaru on Hagakure? c:

Also, Alfred on Dist?
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[personal profile] twinsanity 2014-10-14 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Ishimaru → Hagakure
Hagakure is one of those people Ishimaru didn't have a lot of thoughts about before coming to Johto; he knew he was there, certainly (unlike Kirigiri, whom he managed to forget even existed most of the damn time), but he never really struck him as someone he liked or disliked. Someone else to keep in line and keep on schedule, and someone to move around and check on from time to tiem, but that was about it.

YEAH NEEDLESS TO SAY that changed a lot in Johto. One of the things Ishimaru has been working toward, whether he realizes it or not, is seeing his classmates as People With Feelings, rather than These Individuals That I Have To Keep In Line Or So Help Me, and Hagakure has always been incredibly good to Ishimaru since he arrived - he's actually found it pretty touching, given that they didn't know each other very well back at Hope's Peak but Hagakure's always seemed to care about his well-being and all that. It was admittedly kind of confusing for a while, because Ishimaru couldn't exactly figure out...why that was happening; he's never been the most socially adept person in the world, though, and it took him a while to understand that whether they're all friends or not, all of the Dangans do have some weird sort of family-type bond going on and that's what family does for each other.

That said, he does consider Hagakure a friend by now, definitely; he likes talking to him, even if the conversations aren't always the most linear in the world (due to both of them being...well, themselves). He still doesn't exactly believe in...pretty much anything Hagakure does, but at the same time it's obviously important to him and Ishimaru has had enough character development to not immediately dismiss things that are important to other people just because he doesn't understand or particularly like them; he used to be very arrogant in that regard and he's managed to tone it down a lot, which is why he's so willing to humor Hagakure and let him tell fortunes if he wants to - it's obviously important because it's what he does, and if he wants to read fortunes for him or give him advice based on the current alignment of Jupiter in the house of Saturn or whatever, then he's not going to argue it and he's always admittedly kind of curious to see what'll come up. It's definitely a point of interest due to a curiosity/novelty factor, at least, even if he doesn't necessarily believe in what comes out of it. ...There's also the part where Hagakure is dead-on, like, once out of every three or four predictions on average, and that's actually a pretty decent percentage to be completely dead-on about something literally no one has any way to know anything about. So he's not quite a believer, but at the same time, holy shit.

Ishimaru also remembers a bit more about what happened in Hope's Peak since that incredibly rough canon update in January; he was catatonic as hell for most of the duration, yes, but he was aware of more than they seemed to think he was (as is evidenced by the...total disaster that was the Ishida thing, which was caused by Asahina's going on about a ghost and everyone deciding to just leave Ishimaru where he was while they went to check it out; he obviously heard them, given that he asked to see the "ghost" later, he just couldn't make himself do anything about it at the time) and while it's a bit surreal and hazy, he does know that Hagakure tried to help lead the others while he was out of commission and attempted to get him to come out of it a few times. It's not really something he's discussed with him very much, if at all; he...sort of tried when he first woke up (that's where the "you're a good person/I'm glad you're here" came from), but he hasn't really talked to him about it at length. That...actually means a lot to him, that Hagakure was willing to do that, especially since the others generally left him alone at best and discussed how he was "useless" now right in front of him at worst; Naegi tried to FTE him but otherwise no one but Hagakure really did anything, and the fact that he was willing to try despite not knowing him very well is, uh. Well, it's honestly the sort of thing that isn't getting discussed without a fucklot of tears, should he decide to discuss it at all, but they're good tears, he promises.

Basically he considers Hagakure a really good person and a good friend - kind of a space cadet at times, but that's sort of a WELCOME TO DANGANCAST thing by now, everyone has their moments.

...He's also given his permission with regards to Hagakure and Parker dating, so obviously he's doing something right because that's Ishimaru's sister we're talking about.


Alfred → Dist
This is going to be far shorter, just because Alfred is one of those people who doesn't form opinions on very many people; he has a lot of issues that basically make it very difficult for him to remember at times who he's spoken to about what, and as such he tends to prefer keeping his conversations mostly superficial and it's a large reason why he has such an attitude issue most of the time. (So actually no, it's not anything Dist is doing in particular to piss him off, despite the fact that Alfred tends to be snide in his direction a lot of the time.)

He actually does respect what Dist does, because his family is kind of based around SCIENCE!! and he has a very healthy respect for what people in that position are capable of; he also...okay there's really no way to put this that isn't blunt as hell/doesn't make everybody involved sound like they're six, but my god he really liked that bee. It's not common that he finds someone willing to work with massive insects, so he definitely approves of the giant metal-coated bee that he was allowed to, uh, play with for a while.

(He raised so much hell with that bee in the name of science, Dist. I don't know how useful the science was but there certainly was a lot of it.)

So yes, despite the general sense of Alfred that tends to come across in their threads, because Alfred is super-unpleasant, he does respect the guy? He's just really shit at demonstrating it and honestly doesn't see why he should have to demonstrate it in the first place because it's just sort of a given that you don't fuck with scientists where he comes from.

...In terms of personal/non-professional opinion, he. Um. Sort of doesn't have one. But again, that's kind of par for the course...
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[personal profile] faintwaves 2014-10-14 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Well I'm p sure nothing's changed about Ishi's thoughts on Maka but I am remembering again they haven't talked in a while and Maka's friends are kinda dropping out like flies so???

yeah she's probably going to be messaging him one of these days like YOU'RE STILL HERE RIGHT
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[personal profile] ardent 2014-10-14 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
MAKA PLEASE HIT HIM WITH THIS THAT IS PERFECTLY FINE ARE YOU OKAY
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[personal profile] soundmind 2014-10-15 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
Actually curiosity killed the mozart: ISHI ON PROTAG-CHAN